In my mind, a lot of brain power has been lavished-- squandered really -- on this exercise, simply to prove, or to refute, the notion that the destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar took place in 607 BCE, when the entire premise of its relevance to the 1914 date-setting is built on the flimsiest of constructs-- i.e. the "day-for a-year" hypothesis, the arbitrary stitching together of widely disparate scriptural texts in Ezekiel, Daniel and Revelation, the "Nebuchadnezzar-as-symbol-of-divine-rulership of the earth, etc., etc.
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The Gentile Times Reconsidered (607 B.C.E.) -Part A1 - Jeremiah 25:10-12 Reviewed
by FaceTheFacts induring the last three to four months, i have spent a great deal of time sinking my teeth into various critical biblical commentaries and lexicons.
naturally, after beginning to research "the truth about the truth" one of the most commonplace yet controversial arguments revolve around the "gentile times" doctrine (i.e.
the application of the seven times of daniel 4 from 607 b.c.e.
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January 2013 warns parents to resist contact with df'd children again
by stuckinlimbo insee page 15-16. full of "straw men" like:.
* do not blame yourself it is the child that jehovah blames - parents do not care whose fault it is they just want their child not to be killed by god.
* it is ok for parents to hope their df'd child returns - was anybody really asking if that was wrong?.
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Reminds me of one friend, who was so frustrated by his rebellious daughter slipping out at night he nailed shut the windows in her room...
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New letter RE public witnessing.. omg they are setting up stands!!!
by BigE inthis link contains news of a letter sent to the elders about witnesses setting up stands to peddle literature in public places!
how desperate are they?
it sounds sad honestly... and they are told not to argue with apostates .
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I can see they're opening themselves up to a whole host of unintended consequences....
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What do you mean?! I ALWAYS go to the beach after service and wear long pants and button up shirts while I play a game in the sand with my family! Sometimes I wear button up long sleeve shirts too!
by Crisis of Conscience inthe wts likes to imply how jws should dress in and outside of the hall.
you always want to set an example.. so i couldn't help but share this beauty in the january 15th, 2013, study edition of the watchtower.
i always go to the beach like this!
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My God, what planet are these people on? And ronwashington, what's with the gratuitous swearing?
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AUSTRALIA: Migration Scam Being Operated by Jehovah's Witnesses and the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society
by jwleaks injw leaks has updated their "human rights" page with hundreds of pages of documents released, all relating to 19 separate court cases involving jehovah's witnesses conducted through the european court of human rights and also the australian refugee tribunal.. .
the 9 cases that were run through the australian refugee tribunal by the jehovah's witnesses all came from lebanon.. .
one former member of jehovah's witnesses, who advised on a number of refugee and migration cases for jehovah's witnesses and the watchtower bible and tract society of australia, and provided the documents and background information (yet to be published) to jw leaks, stated:.
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Par for the course with these people... I believe jw leaks means "reprehensible".... I certainly do
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Which of the 5 weekly meetings did you hate the most?
by RULES & REGULATIONS init was always stressed that the five weekly meetings were like the fingers on your hand.
each one was just as important as the next.
which of the meetings were the most boring,bothersome and difficult to listen to?
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Service Meeting, for sure... the WT study, where the conductor loves the sound of his own voice, pontificates ad nauseum, runs way overtime and then rushes the last few paragraphs to catch up; most of the comments were read-outs verbatim, or from kids who mumble them out as their doting parents nudge them.
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Celestial chariot or broken down cart? Judging the agility of the organization...
by cedars ini've just uploaded an "end of year" article to my blog.
you can read it on the link below.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/why-is-gods-earthly-organization-so-slow.
in my article i explain how 2012 has taught me something i didn't know previously about the watch tower society - that it is painfully slow at responding to important developments.. i cite examples of three recent developments where the society has been slow to respond, or get word out.... the candace conti verdict - media blackout for six days following the judgmentthe appointment of mark sanderson - no official confirmation for months after the appointment was announced at morning worshipthe "new light" on the faithful slave - over a month before officially confirmed on jw.org, and a further month before the information was available in other languagesi then go on to look at the recent video about the watchtower sign and make the argument that, far from being comparable with a lightning-fast celestial chariot, the society has grown slow and cumbersome in responding to developments because it is essentially in love with itself - as per the greek mythological character narcissus.. anyway, take a look at the article when you get a moment, and let me know what you think!.
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I suspect there's an element of contempt for the rank and file evident in their nonchalance; the Bethel biggies feel no obligation to divulge anything in a timely manner..
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JW.org reports on the Sandy Hook shooting...
by cedars infrom the official jw website.... .
school shooting in connecticutdecember 17, 2012 | united states.
on friday, december 14, 2012, a shooting took place at an elementary school in newtown, connecticut.
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Bangalore: "Micah" the contributor to the JW forum you mention above posed a couple of very interesting questions; I notice nobody attempted to reply to him....
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Sparlock Child's Toy Makes Jehovah Sad!
by frankiespeakin inwell according to the governing body aka> jehovah's spokesman for the entire earthly population, a toy such as sparlock that is in the posession of small children who's parents are jws makes jehovah "sad".. well if that is true then jehovah needs to see a psychiatist for depression caused by unreasonableness and phobias.
if this little child toy makes him sad, and prone to wrath and murder, as biblical accounts show him wipeing out vast portions of the human and animal populations when his sadness hits major proportions, he also needs to take some anger management courses to get a handle on his sanity and riegn in his jealousy which seems destructive and out of control at times.. it is no idle speculation that if jehovah finds sparlock offensive and makes him depressed, he's got some serious mental issues, but realistically this sadness is all a projection of the governing body and shows them to have the issues that they are projecting on a imaginary figure whom they call jehovah.
in other words the currant governing body are a bunch of mentally sick bastards in a delusional state of mind..
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It's interesting that Caleb's mommy says the harmless plastic toy makes Jehovah "sad," when what she really means is "mad" ....
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OK, spill the beans, which one of us wrote into Biblical Archaeology Review this month about the pronunciation of YHWH?
by dropoffyourkeylee inhere's the subject:.
the "q&c" questions and comments section of the journal 'biblical archaeology review' (one of my favorite magazines), jan/feb 2013 , p. 68, someone from illinois wrote the following question:.
quote: "we've often heard that 'jehovah' is an amalgamation of the unpronounced tetragrammaton (yhwh) and, when spoken, is pronounced "lord" (adonai).
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The very name is a vestige of the Hebrew god's progression from polytheism to monolatry, and finally, to monotheism....